25th SEA GAMES, Vientiane, Laos 2009

littlehorsefish wrote:

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I am sorry if I misunderstood that some of you mention finswimming and shuttle**** as "local sports of Vietnam" (as Vietnam first put in SEA Games) or "not international". Please have a look at these information:

Finswimming

It is a fairly widespread sport around the world; Russia, China, France, Greece, Germany and Italy are the main players. However, it can be found in over one hundred countries around the world. Finswimming is found in many Commonwealth countries (see Commonwealth of Nations) including the United Kingdom, Australia, New Zealand, Canada and Singapore (see Commonwealth Finswimming Records).
Most countries hold National Championships, many of which are open to international competitors (including the Netherlands, Germany and Belgium).

In the United Kingdom there are around ten finswimming clubs, [8][9][10] mostly in Kent. There is an annual National Short Course (25 m pool) Finswimming Championships in the United Kingdom, which are traditionally held at the Edenbridge Leisure Centre, Edenbridge, Kent in November. As of 2007, the annual National Long Course (50 m pool) Finswimming Championships have been held; the first being held inAldershot, Hampshire.

In the United States it is very small but gaining competitors. The major areas of finswimming in the United States include Texas (Houston, including the suburbs of Pasadena and Deer Park), which has the largest concentration of finswimmers in the USA [1] and is governed by theTexas Finswimming Association, California (around San Francisco, which is the location of the national headquarters for USA Fin Swimming),Rhode Island (around Providence), and scattered individuals in Florida. The United States has competed at the World Championships sporadically since the early 1980s, achieving very limited success on the international scene. A few competitions are held in the United States, with the last US National Championships being held in California in 1998. Texas hosts three to four meets a year, with participation consisting of Texas finswimmers and those from other countries who live in the southeast Texas area and still train and compete in the sport. They have hosted the majority of the finswimming competitions in the USA for the past 6-8 years. Texas hosts the Texas Open Finswimming Invitational, the Gulf Coast International Finswimming Invitational, along with the Texas State Finswimming Championships every year. All of these events are hosted and organized by the Texas Finswimming Association. In addition they also host 2-3 high school finswimming meets a year. The World Scholar-Athlete Games and the United States Scholar-Athlete Games at the University of Rhode Island have included finswimming competition as a part of their Games program since 1999. The sport is growing in the United States with scattered pockets around the country popping up. However Texas leads the country in the number of finswimmers and competitions. Most finswimming training outside of Texas and California consists of cross training for swimming.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finswimming#Distribution

Shuttle**** (đá cầu)

Jiànzi (毽子), ti jian zi (踢毽子), ti jian (踢毽) or jiànqiú (毽球) is a traditional Asian game in which players aim to keep a heavily weighted shuttle**** in the air using their feet and other parts of the body (but not hands, unlike the similar games peteca and indiaca). The game, which goes by many different names (see below), may be rules-based on a court similar to badminton and Volleyball, or be played artistically, among a circle of players in a street or park, with the objective to keep the shuttle 'up' and show off skills. In Vietnam, it is known as đá cầu and is the national sport, played especially in Hanoi.

In recent years, the game has gained a formal following in Europe, the United States and elsewhere.

In English, both the sport and the object with which it is played are referred to as "shuttle****" or "featherball". No racquets are used.

Vietnam - đá cầu
Malaysia - sepak bulu ayam
Singapore (and SE Asia) - chapteh or capteh or chatek
Korea - jegichagi or jeigi (to most Koreans know as sports only for children)
Indonesia - bola bulu tangkis or sepak kenchi
Philippines - larong sipa
Macau - chiquia
India - poona (forerunner of badminton) (unknown to most Indians)
Greece - Podopterisi
France - da câu or plumfoot or [pili]

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jianzi

Playing finswimming may be expensive for you, but believe me: playing shuttle**** (as a game, not as an equipment of badminton) is cheap and good for your health. :D

-- Edited by littlehorsefish on Saturday 19th of December 2009 09:33:12 AM

-- Edited by littlehorsefish on Saturday 19th of December 2009 09:34:46 AM

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Pls try to search another sources that can be trusted more than wikipidia. Anyone can amend info in wiki. To be honest, it cannot be used as a reference.

littlehorsefish wrote:

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Yeah, the information on Wikipedia with specific references is trustful as well, friend.

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I have already considered the specific references on wiki before reply your post. Honestly, they are still not enough, friend. A lot of refs. on wiki still can be followed to read the primary sources.

even some refs that can be followed like theses..

http://www.afscet.asso.fr/resSystemica/Crete02/Koulianou.pdf
http://csjarchive.cogsci.rpi.edu/Proceedings/2006/docs/p2539.pdf
http://www.teamworkandteamplay.com/resources/resources_peteca2006.pdf

and so on. (from wiki)

Nothing about info. that you want to point it out here. Other specific refs from wiki are still wrong.

Moreover, as I have read info regarding the history of Shuttle**** and Finswimming roughly, it has been known for very long time ago by vietnam, China, UK etc. Don't you think why they have not decided to put these sports in Olympic or asian games.

Before you refer sth as your references Pls look carefully via them.

Regards