25th SEA GAMES, Vientiane, Laos 2009

Date: Dec 6, 2009

RE: Cambodia 4 - 1 Timor Leste

Tinfy · Member

Has u c!!! cambodia never keep a clean sheet game even thry play against very poor side Timor. They looked down their opposition....

Date: Dec 6, 2009

BibiBoog wrote:

actually, I bought it in a flea-market...and even don't know what its brand is. :D :D It's juz cute and fit me, I think :">
Of course, Vnese brands r developing in the international market. We r so glad to hear that Cambodian r interesting in Vnese brands. :)

You are right. Now I have changed my using from bad Thai to good Vnese.

chenko · Veteran Member

Thailand 4-0 Cambodia

Vietnam 4-0 Timor

but....

Cambodia 4-1 Timor

so.. Thailand is stronger than vietnam... lol

-- Edited by chenko on Sunday 6th of December 2009 10:29:35 PM

BibiBoog · Senior Member

it's a funny comparison,girl =] LOL

Banana · Senior Member

NHP wrote:

It's truth. I always give prominence to Thai product, like my motorbike : Honda Dream II - 43 mil VND in 1997 's the big money. I've been using since 1997 and it still work well. Honda Super dream 's the product of Honda Vietnam, but it can't work well for a long time because they use the Vnamese product. Sorry to say that, but I prefer to use another brand name if I have enough money.

Thai product 's better than Vnamese product because Thailand has the peace before VN. They have lots of choices to develop their economic and improve the production line

-- Edited by NHP on Sunday 6th of December 2009 09:59:21 PM

BibiBoog...

Does NHP say correct or not ?

BibiBoog · Senior Member

yup, it did happen in the past... when our economy and technology r still not developed as we r in the present. Besides, he bought his vnese-brand bike with a lower price. Lower price equals lower quality. Do u agree? :)

-- Edited by BibiBoog on Sunday 6th of December 2009 10:33:40 PM

NHP · Senior Member

it's not the cheap price if u compare the income of Vietnamese people. more than 15 mil VNĐ, about $US 600 's cheap, isn't it? alright, look at the average income of Vietnamese people this time, just abt $US 500 => $US 1000.

I didn't buy any Vietnamese motorbike to use. I still drive Dream II to go around Saigon and use car to go far away.

NHP · Senior Member

BibiBoog wrote:

yup, it did happen in the past... when our economy and technology r still not developed as we r in the present. Besides, he bought his vnese-brand bike with a lower price. Lower price equals lower quality. Do u agree? :)

-- Edited by BibiBoog on Sunday 6th of December 2009 10:33:40 PM

we're developing in both of economic and technology. So far, we're the low developing country. We're not the developed country or high developing country

BibiBoog · Senior Member

It's juz a comparison between Thai motorbike price and Vietnam motorbike ! I didnt say it's cheap price for Vnese Mr.NHP. :) Ur cm made Thai think that we juz produce any bad products! And I have to say it's not True.

Banana · Senior Member

BibiBoog wrote:

yup, it did happen in the past... when our economy and technology r still not developed as we r in the present. Besides, he bought his vnese-brand bike with a lower price. Lower price equals lower quality. Do u agree? :)

-- Edited by BibiBoog on Sunday 6th of December 2009 10:33:40 PM

Maybe you said true but not at all.

Definition of quality :
Almost build to met specification and met customer expectation

If consumer expect to use in short term and low price.

It's good quality for that customer/consumer blankstare

BibiBoog · Senior Member

NHP wrote:

BibiBoog wrote:

yup, it did happen in the past... when our economy and technology r still not developed as we r in the present. Besides, he bought his vnese-brand bike with a lower price. Lower price equals lower quality. Do u agree? :)

-- Edited by BibiBoog on Sunday 6th of December 2009 10:33:40 PM

we're developing in both of economic and technology. So far, we're the low developing country. We're not the developed country or high developing country

it's juz a grammar misunderstanding! Our country is a developing country. And it's developed by the government !

NHP · Senior Member

BibiBoog wrote:

It's juz a comparison between Thai motorbike price and Vietnam motorbike ! I didnt say it's cheap price for Vnese Mr.NHP. :) Ur cm made Thai think that we juz produce any bad products! And I have to say it's not True.

I'm comparing abt the Thai and Vietnamese product in motorbike industry. That's the reason why I give example abt Honda.

NHP · Senior Member

BibiBoog wrote:
it's juz a grammar misunderstanding! Our country is a developing country. And it's developed by the government !

Why didn't u talk like that? It's better for us to know what u meant

NHP · Senior Member

Banana wrote:

Maybe you said true but not at all.

Definition of quality :
Almost build to met specification and met customer expectation

If consumer expect to use in short term and low price.

It's good quality for that customer/consumer

Exactly, we don't care the high or low price. we need the reasonable price and good product. In business, we 'll fail down and going to bankrupt if we think like that" Lower price, lower quality". Sorry, it's the way to joke smile

how can u compete and achieve the market with that thinking?

lol, "good job"

BibiBoog · Senior Member

I juz used a passive voice grammar. Okay, sorry if my cm let u get this mistakenness.

Vietnam-Laos-Cambodia · Senior Member

We're working hard to overcome you after 20 years, I believe that, because we are all one else in your country, they splited the country to other teams: red,yellow and blue that is not good for the development...

NHP · Senior Member

BibiBoog wrote:

I juz used a passive voice grammar. Okay, sorry if my cm let u get this mistakenness.

ok, talk abt the grammer. u used passive voice, didn't u? what did u mean? the economic and technology this time or the past?

For the past: was/were + verb in past participle

At the moment: am/is/are + verb in past participle

At that case, what did u use? R : are, right?

btw, I got ur meaning, so it's ok. thanks very much

Cheers,

Date: Dec 6, 2009

Banana wrote:

Vietnam can beat Korea .... ??????? Really U16 or U19 ....

............................................................

Why 're you lose Seria in your home ? .... That truth...

Wake up ..... Wake up....

we did beat korea 1-0 u know

source:
http://english.donga.com/srv/service.php3?bicode=070000&biid=2003102319728

vietnam 1 - 0 Korea Asian cup qualifier 2004
National teams not U-23 or U19 U16

that to say - nothing is impossible in football

starboy · Veteran Member

Indonesia. Winner......

http://www.tinyurl.com/bismarblog

BibiBoog · Senior Member

Absolutely, reasonable price and good quality is a perfect product for every consumer. I've juz said in that case, Thai motorbike industry is better than Vietnam (we cannot deny it), but the price is higher than ours... that makes many of us cannot afford them. :)
Sorry, my major is not about business or something like that... ^^!

NHP · Senior Member

Anonymous wrote:

we did beat korea 1-0 u know

source:
http://english.donga.com/srv/service.php3?bicode=070000&biid=2003102319728

vietnam 1 - 0 Korea Asian cup qualifier 2004
National teams not U-23 or U19 U16

that to say - nothing is impossible in football

hey guy, U-23 Vietnam won Korea in the qualifying round of ASIAN cup 2004. Do u wanna check? It was the chance for U-23 to practice before they came to play in SEA GAMES 22 - Vietnam

http://vietbao.vn/The-thao/U23-Viet-Nam-danh-bai-tuyen-Han-Quoc-tai-Asian-Cup/10837499/137/

19/10/2003: Hàn Quốc - Việt Nam: 0-1

NHP · Senior Member

BibiBoog wrote:

Absolutely, reasonable price and good quality is a perfect product for every consumer. I've juz said in that case, Thai motorbike industry is better than Vietnam (we cannot deny it), but the price is higher than ours... that makes many of us cannot afford them. :)
Sorry, my major is not about business or something like that... ^^!

higher? wow, how can u know. It's the same because we take the tax too high, so that's the reason why U think that the price of Thai motorbike 's higher than us. another reason's the demand. We wanna have Thai motorbike, all of us wanna have, but we don't have supplement enough to sell, so the provider have more chances to give up the price. lol

It's easy to understand without the knowledge of business.

BibiBoog · Senior Member

Tax is an anti-dumping policy of the government. All the countries have rules (and laws about that) not juz our country,my friend :)

chenko · Veteran Member

this topic is all about... seagames football , history , ASEAN development , economic , industry , market and quality of products.

now.. language and english grammar

whats next? lol

NHP · Senior Member

BibiBoog wrote:

Tax is an anti-dumping policy of the government. All the countries have rules (and laws about that) not juz our country,my friend :)

Everybody know that all countries have the rules about the tax, except the kid. The main point's the high tax. it's too high. It's the problem.

NHP · Senior Member

chenko wrote:

this topic is all about... seagames football , history , ASEAN development , economic , industry , market and quality of products.

now.. language and english grammar

whats next? lol

bleh our habits, our daily activities. lol, something like that biggrin

Khmer_idol · Senior Member

Let me share some thing:

There is almost no longer a Thai product, VN product or Chinese. It's only "Made in Thai or made in VN or made in CN". Toyota is in almost every country.

The reason why VN economy is growing so fast because of the influence of globalisation in which international firms try to invest in a country where capital, human resources and technologies capabilities are comparatively cheap.

Consumers nowadays would trust in brand than to check if that is made in VN. For instance, some American products or brands are made in VN but still highly appreciated and bought by the Americans people and the rest of the world.

I think Banana is very correct to say that Quality is what customers want or meeting and exceeding customer expectation.

bibiboog is also correct. Quality and high price comes together most of the time.

Khmer_idol · Senior Member

VN Government imposed high tax in order to protect its national made brands!!!! You guys, VN, should say thank to your Govt. Otherwise the foreign brands will invade VN. I guess mostly will be from Thais.

Imposing high tax does affect consumer since they have no choice and freedom to use a better quality product and were forced to use local made low quality products. we need to admit it. It's free market economic view.

NHP · Senior Member

Finally 's the country that they wanna sell their products. Give a simple ex: Chinese product in America 's better than Chinese product in Vietnam or another countries. Why? because the normal incomes in America's totally higher than each other. In addition, it made in China and they export to Vietnam. How abt us? Vietnamese people use their domestic products with the lower quality and unreasonable price for their incomes, don't they?

NHP · Senior Member

Khmer_idol wrote:

VN Government imposed high tax in order to protect its national made brands!!!! You guys, VN, should say thank to your Govt. Otherwise the foreign brands will invade VN. I guess mostly will be from Thais.

Imposing high tax does affect consumer since they have no choice and freedom to use a better quality product and were forced to use local made low quality products. we need to admit it. It's free market economic view.

But we still have choice to buy something good. Lots of good quality product around here and we have to buy with the higher price if we compare to the original price. As the viewer of domestic businessman , I'll say thanks very much to VN government, but I won't do like that as the viewer of customer. It's really expensive to buy a good product. It's also truth in the medicine industry.

So far, we always have the conflict abt these problem on the above ^^ All of us 're trying to protect our opinions, but please do that in the polite way. Nobody said something rude before. don't worry abt it smile It's just the message.

BibiBoog · Senior Member

Cry out about the income in this 4rum does not make sense.
Let me ask u a question NHP... Are u really PROUD of being a Vietnamese ?

Khmer_idol · Senior Member

NHP, I understand your concern. But there is nothing fair. We need to live in it. To be honest, you guys are around 80 Millions. Credit to your Govt who are able to feed you to these days.

When you finished your school, you got jobs to do. Unlike me in my country, we need to find ourselves.

NHP · Senior Member

BibiBoog wrote:

Cry out about the income in this 4rum does not make sense.
Let me ask u a question NHP... Are u really PROUD of being a Vietnamese ?

why not? even I'm not the real because my family have the mixed up between Chinese, French and Vietnamese. So far, it's not the good question. I'm proud to be Saigonese, too.

Khmer_idol · Senior Member

What s a question, Bibiboog..!!

Noone hates its blood or original :D

I love my originality, hence i love another and many other nationals.

VN ladies are cute. But the men are not at all :D

I never love VN men but that s true, we are the same men. biggrin

NHP · Senior Member

Khmer_idol wrote:

NHP, I understand your concern. But there is nothing fair. We need to live in it. To be honest, you guys are around 80 Millions. Credit to your Govt who are able to feed you to these days.

When you finished your school, you got jobs to do. Unlike me in my country, we need to find ourselves.

yup, Nothing's fair. At least, we're better than Cambodian in some parts; but we also have 2 sides of life. VN's gowning up and the government 's trying to develop VN as well as possible; even they still have their problem in management. It's ok. graduated students always have a job to do, but we need to compete with each other, to spend money and buy the position. It happened in these situation. I don't know how abt the other country or another situation. That's all I see and I have to face all times.

NHP · Senior Member

Khmer_idol wrote:

What s a question, Bibiboog..!!

Noone hates its blood or original :D

I love my originality, hence i love another and many other nationals.

VN ladies are cute. But the men are not at all :D

I never love VN men but that s true, we are the same men.

Exactly, how can I deny my nationality or my blood? Vietnam's my country. That's it

BibiBoog · Senior Member

Okay... I juz ask for sure... Well,I'm also Saigonese. Somehow, our cms in this topic look like a quarrel. And it's not good when our foreign friends read and think we r divided, rite? :) So juz...stop here. This topic is about Cambodia and Timor...we r getting so far. :)

Khmer_idol · Senior Member

NHP,

In terms of product quality and brands, I guess Cambodia is far favorable than VN.

Tax is not that high. Many brands available in Cambodia. If not enough and we are free, just fly out to Singapore, Malaysia or Thailand buying other cool made brands....

But....everything is so expensive over here.

However, I encourage that you come for a visit to Cambodia. :)

I ve been to everywhere in VN-- HCM, Hue, Nha Chang, Han Noi...

BibiBoog · Senior Member

Khmer_idol wrote:

What s a question, Bibiboog..!!

Noone hates its blood or original :D

I love my originality, hence i love another and many other nationals.

VN ladies are cute. But the men are not at all :D

I never love VN men but that s true, we are the same men.

Thank you Khmer_idol :) I can see that Cambodian men r so kind!

NHP · Senior Member

BibiBoog wrote:

Okay... I juz ask for sure... Well,I'm also Saigonese. Somehow, our cms in this topic look like a quarrel. And it's not good when our foreign friends read and think we r divided, rite? :) So juz...stop here. This topic is about Cambodia and Timor...we r getting so far. :)

Wow, nice to see original Saigonese. Well, it's just the discussion and it's the chance to get knowledge and express what we think. I don't care what the other think abt us. We're trying to get information and improve ourselves, not for themselves.

Khmer_idol · Senior Member

You re welcomed :)) bibiboog

NHP · Senior Member

Khmer_idol wrote:

NHP,

In terms of product quality and brands, I guess Cambodia is far favorable than VN.

Tax is not that high. Many brands available in Cambodia. If not enough and we are free, just fly out to Singapore, Malaysia or Thailand buying other cool made brands....

But....everything is so expensive over here.

However, I encourage that you come for a visit to Cambodia. :)

I ve been to everywhere in VN-- HCM, Hue, Nha Chang, Han Noi...

Yup, I came Cambodia several times in 2005 and 2006. I stayed in Siemriep and Phnompenh. I totally agreed with u that all things 's really expensive. OMG, I should pay abt 20.000 VND for 1 hour at Internet service and it's really hard to find out the Internet store, even I lived in the capital of Cambodia.

And ...... I should use USD to buy something I like because lots of people didn't accept me use their currency " Riel". I don't know the reason why? My Cambodian friend took me went around Phnompenh. It's so nice and peaceful, widely quite :)

BibiBoog · Senior Member

NHP wrote:

BibiBoog wrote:

Okay... I juz ask for sure... Well,I'm also Saigonese. Somehow, our cms in this topic look like a quarrel. And it's not good when our foreign friends read and think we r divided, rite? :) So juz...stop here. This topic is about Cambodia and Timor...we r getting so far. :)

Wow, nice to see original Saigonese. Well, it's just the discussion and it's the chance to get knowledge and express what we think. I don't care what the other think abt us. We're trying to get information and improve ourselves, not for themselves.

But this is an international 4rum,not ur personal one. We cannot say that we juz care about ourselves man. It also concerns the international relationship!
However, personally, I think u r a smart guy who dares to say what he thinks. It's good. I also learn a lot from u :)

-- Edited by BibiBoog on Monday 7th of December 2009 12:50:48 AM

Khmer_idol · Senior Member

NHP,

Nice to hear you ve been around...when will you come again :)??? lemme know...hook you up with some nice people and places......

2006 and 2010 are totally different....

Now in every restaurants and café has fee internet....you dont need to pay a penny.

NHP · Senior Member

BibiBoog wrote:
But this is an international 4rum,not ur personal one. We cannot say that we juz care about ourselves man. It also concerns the international relationship!
However, personally, I think u r a smart guy who dares to say what he thinks. It's good. I also learn a lot from u :)

-- Edited by BibiBoog on Monday 7th of December 2009 12:50:48 AM

So far, it's better to say something true. I don't wanna tell lie or keep something in my heart when I go online. That's free to talk in the normal speech and it's also truth. We didn't talk abt politics or some bad new abt our country, so it's not the problem. If foreigner know, they'll know a little bit of VN. At least, they can know what's right or wrong because lots of anti-communist try to destroy our country, they said something 's really bad and stupid.

Btw, I think It should be done ^^ Have a nice day, everybody smile

Go back SEA GAMES 25 ^^

NHP · Senior Member

Khmer_idol wrote:

NHP,

Nice to hear you ve been around...when will you come again :)??? lemme know...hook you up with some nice people and places......

2006 and 2010 are totally different....

Now in every restaurants and café has fee internet....you dont need to pay a penny.

I know ^^ Cambodia's gowning up day by day, like Vietnam. My Cambodian friend said that they're using Internet service with the reasonable price and the telecommunition 's good, too. He's using Metfone and he think it's cheaper than the other. He always use his cells to go online and chat with me.

Khmer_idol · Senior Member

laterz NHP

NHP · Senior Member

Khmer_idol wrote:

laterz NHP

biggrin OK

Date: Dec 7, 2009

I honestly agree with u man!! Every country has their own quality brand products. If u have a chance come to United States and go to shopping over there. you will be surprise a lot by Vietnamese products cuz many clothes are sale in US totally are from Vietnam makers.