Hello MC Newbie I've read a lot of your comments and I think u got a different comment, reality, well informed in sport with everybody I just wonder are u Vietnamese??? Why u overvalue the u23 Vietnamese team in this seagame tournament?? In group B, Myanmar and Indonesia very hard to defeat, and I commend Myanmar to go to next round, the last ticket of semifinal is competition between Indonesia and Laos
Hello MC Newbie I've read a lot of your comments and I think u got a different comment, reality, well informed in sport with everybody I just wonder are u Vietnamese??? Why u overvalue the u23 Vietnamese team in this seagame tournament?? In group B, Myanmar and Indonesia very hard to defeat, and I commend Myanmar to go to next round, the last ticket of semifinal is competition between Indonesia and Laos
Hi,
Thanks for your reading. Why did i overvalue Vietnam? Well, in fact, I don't overvalue Vietnam - I just predicted from the FACT of the performance each team has prepared so far.
To my point of view, three countries that are in the TOP of my mind if considering to be the champion are: Thailand, Vietnam & Singapore. Why? Because they are the strongest teams in SEA region. They are well-prepared for this SEA game.
Though Myanmar and Indonesia are the tough team to defeat, but remember the games is held in Laos. With huge/overwhelming supports from their fans and its strict preparation, Laos team may make a surprise. Never underestimate the host team. E.g: France could become the champion of World Cup 1998 in its home which was a BIG surprise. Recently, Cambodia could beat the one of strongest professional Vietnam V-League team and crown the champion! One old saying said, "the ball is round" so no-one can predict the result accurately until the games finished.
Honestly, my heart wants Laos, Cambodia or Myanmar crown the champion, but my head says no!
I believe the strongest teams in SEA will be the ones you indicate, Vietnam and Thailand with Singapore coming 3rd. Yes Laos will have home support but they are simply not as strong as the other 3 teams. I'm from Cambodia and would love my team to get through the group A but we are still learning at international level and I feel Vietnam and Thailand will have too much know-how for us. But we will give it our best shot. We just won a 4-team tournament at home and in the final we beat HAGL from the V-league in front of 30,000 fans, but the SEA Games will be different. The competition will be fierce and some teams are better organized than others and have spent longer together in preparing. Those teams will reap the rewards in the SEA Games. I keep my fingers crossed for Cambodian success but I have to be realistic.
Firstly, Thailand, Vietnam and Singapore was strongest team in Sea region and well prepared for this Seagame. Nobody deny it Back to Vietnam last 2 years, they send u23 national team to played Olympic qualified round. They crowned with success when they came to third round with unbelievable result ( win Oman 2-0, win Saudi Arabia 1-0, lose Japan 0-1). After that tournament, all Vietnamese fans have so much confident in their u23 national team, high ability to get a gold in Thailand, but they soon disappointed, their u23 team finished at the semifinal (penalty kick with Myanmar), then lost 0-5 Singapore. For what reason???? Because their u23 team have no more energy, no more power.
Secondly, Laos and Cambodia u23 teams improving so fast, but not enough to go to semifinal this Seagame. Laos has more advantage than Cambodia when they play in their home soil "u23 Cambodia could beat the one of strongest professional Vietnam V-League team and crown the champion" u mean HAGL???? Lets me tell u, HAGL lost 9 player to their national team and u23 team, no Lee Nguyen who played in PSV and now been training in Arsenal, no Thailand national player Thonglao.....they used u21+....Did u know what the name of this tournament???? "BIDC cup" right?? BIDC come from BIDV (Vietnam banking) that's why they lost a "friendly match" "France could become the champion of World Cup 1998 in its home which was a BIG surprise." I think so, because they've got Zidane, Henry... top player of the world. How about Laos???? plz, tell me some Laos player is top player of Sea region
However, loves to see Laos in semifinal, good luck to Laos
Firstly, Thailand, Vietnam and Singapore was strongest team in Sea region and well prepared for this Seagame. Nobody deny it Back to Vietnam last 2 years, they send u23 national team to played Olympic qualified round. They crowned with success when they came to third round with unbelievable result ( win Oman 2-0, win Saudi Arabia 1-0, lose Japan 0-1). After that tournament, all Vietnamese fans have so much confident in their u23 national team, high ability to get a gold in Thailand, but they soon disappointed, their u23 team finished at the semifinal (penalty kick with Myanmar), then lost 0-5 Singapore. For what reason???? Because their u23 team have no more energy, no more power.
Secondly, Laos and Cambodia u23 teams improving so fast, but not enough to go to semifinal this Seagame. Laos has more advantage than Cambodia when they play in their home soil "u23 Cambodia could beat the one of strongest professional Vietnam V-League team and crown the champion" u mean HAGL???? Lets me tell u, HAGL lost 9 player to their national team and u23 team, no Lee Nguyen who played in PSV and now been training in Arsenal, no Thailand national player Thonglao.....they used u21+....Did u know what the name of this tournament???? "BIDC cup" right?? BIDC come from BIDV (Vietnam banking) that's why they lost a "friendly match" "France could become the champion of World Cup 1998 in its home which was a BIG surprise." I think so, because they've got Zidane, Henry... top player of the world. How about Laos???? plz, tell me some Laos player is top player of Sea region
However, loves to see Laos in semifinal, good luck to Laos
MC friends
Hi Fiend,
Good to read your comments. It is very informative.
To respond your question: "How about Laos???? plz, tell me some Laos player is top player of Sea region"
My response would be as follow: Like Cambodia, Laos team is just emerging. But who know, as I said earlier, the ball is round. If you can recall back a bit, South Korean could go for Semi-final in World Cup 2002 created a BIG surprise. I think it is no different from Laos now.
At least, it is not easy for Thailand, Vietnam or Singapore to beat either Cambodia or Laos anymore. They have to work hard or otherwise they will get shocked.
My prediction; * Semi-finals : - Thailand Vs Singapore - Vietnam Vs Indonesia *Final: Thailand VS Vietnam *25th seagame football men Champions - Vietnam (1-0 or 2-1) A Vientiane boy
Firstly, Thailand, Vietnam and Singapore was strongest team in Sea region and well prepared for this Seagame. Nobody deny it Back to Vietnam last 2 years, they send u23 national team to played Olympic qualified round. They crowned with success when they came to third round with unbelievable result ( win Oman 2-0, win Saudi Arabia 1-0, lose Japan 0-1). After that tournament, all Vietnamese fans have so much confident in their u23 national team, high ability to get a gold in Thailand, but they soon disappointed, their u23 team finished at the semifinal (penalty kick with Myanmar), then lost 0-5 Singapore. For what reason???? Because their u23 team have no more energy, no more power.
Secondly, Laos and Cambodia u23 teams improving so fast, but not enough to go to semifinal this Seagame. Laos has more advantage than Cambodia when they play in their home soil "u23 Cambodia could beat the one of strongest professional Vietnam V-League team and crown the champion" u mean HAGL???? Lets me tell u, HAGL lost 9 player to their national team and u23 team, no Lee Nguyen who played in PSV and now been training in Arsenal, no Thailand national player Thonglao.....they used u21+....Did u know what the name of this tournament???? "BIDC cup" right?? BIDC come from BIDV (Vietnam banking) that's why they lost a "friendly match" "France could become the champion of World Cup 1998 in its home which was a BIG surprise." I think so, because they've got Zidane, Henry... top player of the world. How about Laos???? plz, tell me some Laos player is top player of Sea region
However, loves to see Laos in semifinal, good luck to Laos
MC friends
Hi Fiend,
Good to read your comments. It is very informative.
To respond your question: "How about Laos???? plz, tell me some Laos player is top player of Sea region"
My response would be as follow: Like Cambodia, Laos team is just emerging. But who know, as I said earlier, the ball is round. If you can recall back a bit, South Korean could go for Semi-final in World Cup 2002 created a BIG surprise. I think it is no different from Laos now.
At least, it is not easy for Thailand, Vietnam or Singapore to beat either Cambodia or Laos anymore. They have to work hard or otherwise they will get shocked.
It is nice talking with you.
MC
Hi MC, good to see u again Oh dear, Don't get me wrong, my brother I'm telling u the true about the story, like I said: Laos and Cambodia improving so fast, they played well, good elegant, they have a good coach as well. But in Sea region, we have 2 groups, the first group has Thailand, Vietnam, Singapore, Indonesia, Malaysia and Myanmar, the second group has Laos, Philippines, Cambodia, Brunei,... and there is a wide gap between the first one and the second one, don't u think????? Seagame 25, I overvalue Laos will have a chance to get into semifinal, Cambodia try to win Timor Leste, a draw with last 3 teams will be success for them and just wait for few more year when Seagame organize by Cambodia
Nice talking about Asean-football with u, MC hope to see your comment MC friend
I believe that Laos will pass the first round, second will be Indonesia. We also be surprise in Cambodia team this time. They will make some difficulties for Thailand and Vietnam. I expect that Vietnam, Thailand, Laos, Indonesia will be in semifinal. And Vietnam & Thailand will win for final. Rather difficult to guest which team will be champion.
Firstly, Thailand, Vietnam and Singapore was strongest team in Sea region and well prepared for this Seagame. Nobody deny it Back to Vietnam last 2 years, they send u23 national team to played Olympic qualified round. They crowned with success when they came to third round with unbelievable result ( win Oman 2-0, win Saudi Arabia 1-0, lose Japan 0-1). After that tournament, all Vietnamese fans have so much confident in their u23 national team, high ability to get a gold in Thailand, but they soon disappointed, their u23 team finished at the semifinal (penalty kick with Myanmar), then lost 0-5 Singapore. For what reason???? Because their u23 team have no more energy, no more power.
Secondly, Laos and Cambodia u23 teams improving so fast, but not enough to go to semifinal this Seagame. Laos has more advantage than Cambodia when they play in their home soil "u23 Cambodia could beat the one of strongest professional Vietnam V-League team and crown the champion" u mean HAGL???? Lets me tell u, HAGL lost 9 player to their national team and u23 team, no Lee Nguyen who played in PSV and now been training in Arsenal, no Thailand national player Thonglao.....they used u21+....Did u know what the name of this tournament???? "BIDC cup" right?? BIDC come from BIDV (Vietnam banking) that's why they lost a "friendly match" "France could become the champion of World Cup 1998 in its home which was a BIG surprise." I think so, because they've got Zidane, Henry... top player of the world. How about Laos???? plz, tell me some Laos player is top player of Sea region
However, loves to see Laos in semifinal, good luck to Laos
MC friends
Hi Fiend,
Good to read your comments. It is very informative.
To respond your question: "How about Laos???? plz, tell me some Laos player is top player of Sea region"
My response would be as follow: Like Cambodia, Laos team is just emerging. But who know, as I said earlier, the ball is round. If you can recall back a bit, South Korean could go for Semi-final in World Cup 2002 created a BIG surprise. I think it is no different from Laos now.
At least, it is not easy for Thailand, Vietnam or Singapore to beat either Cambodia or Laos anymore. They have to work hard or otherwise they will get shocked.
It is nice talking with you.
MC
Hi MC, good to see u again Oh dear, Don't get me wrong, my brother I'm telling u the true about the story, like I said: Laos and Cambodia improving so fast, they played well, good elegant, they have a good coach as well. But in Sea region, we have 2 groups, the first group has Thailand, Vietnam, Singapore, Indonesia, Malaysia and Myanmar, the second group has Laos, Philippines, Cambodia, Brunei,... and there is a wide gap between the first one and the second one, don't u think????? Seagame 25, I overvalue Laos will have a chance to get into semifinal, Cambodia try to win Timor Leste, a draw with last 3 teams will be success for them and just wait for few more year when Seagame organize by Cambodia
Nice talking about Asean-football with u, MC hope to see your comment MC friend
Hi My friend,
Love to talk with you. Now I got your points clearer.
In my opinion, in SEA region the football men teams can be classified as the follow: In the past few years:
First Class 1. Thailand 2. Vietnam 3. Singapore Second Class 1. Malaysia 2. Indonesia 3. Myanmar Third Class 1. Laos 2. Cambodia 3. Philippine 4. East Timor 5. Brunei
You're right. There is a very big gap between the first vs third class.
But for 2009, Laos and Cambodia are claiming the ladder to the second class. So now in total there are 5 members in the second class. As the new comers, they can be big thread for old members in the second class such as Malaysia, Indonesia and Myanmar - but not that much (in terms of thread) to the first class like Thailand & Vietnam.
I wish to see the teams from the second class to crown the champion this time. It is too boring to see either Thailand (especially), or Vietnam, or Singapore win the champion. But it is just the wish. The true will be revealed soon!
I think Cambodia will Champoin in Lao sea game 25th. Cause this new-improvement group and strong one champoin for BIDC Cup-2009. Score will be: Cam-Thai 1-0, Cam-Timor 3-0, Cam-Viet 2-1, Cam-Mal 2-0. The final is Cambodia winner.
MC, I am amazed that you are talking about Loas beating Myanmar and Singapore
I am appreciated that Loas has improved a lot in these year, but don't forget that Myanmar has improved as well
We started professional league this year and we are very keen to see our Myanmar team improvment in this Sea-game. and every myanmar expecting their team to go into semi..
okie, we will all know the result in two weeks time!! good luck, everyone..
MC, I am amazed that you are talking about Loas beating Myanmar and Singapore
I am appreciated that Loas has improved a lot in these year, but don't forget that Myanmar has improved as well
We started professional league this year and we are very keen to see our Myanmar team improvment in this Sea-game. and every myanmar expecting their team to go into semi..
okie, we will all know the result in two weeks time!! good luck, everyone..
Yeah, i hope so. I never deny the development of football in Myanmar. recently, they are doing well.
But the game is in Laos and now the gap between Myanmar and Laos are no big different. While each team may have equal chance to win, Laos has more advantage because they host the game. Most often, the host team is difficult to defeat. It is interesting to look at the FIFA World Ranking. Currently, the list is as below:
I think FIFA should update the list. There is no way Singapore and Indonesia above Vietnam nowadays. Laos & Cambodia should be above the Philippines. Malaysia, Myanmar, Laos & Cambodia should be ranked one point respectively.
But the game is in Laos and now the gap between Myanmar and Laos are no big different. While each team may have equal chance to win, Laos has more advantage because they host the game. Most often, the host team is difficult to defeat.
I think FIFA should update the list. There is no way Singapore and Indonesia above Vietnam nowadays. Laos & Cambodia should be above the Philippines. Malaysia, Myanmar, Laos & Cambodia should be ranked one point respectively.
Just my thought, MC
Yeah, we do aware that Loas is the host team and the gap has been closer. Most of the Myanmar U-23 players has shown concern about it. So they will play Loas with respect. So we will see..obviously we all want to see our team to beat all the other teams
for me, i would be very happy if Myanmar beat Singapore
For the Fifa ranking, it only counts the result of the full NT, not U23 teams. So the results from this sea-game would not affect the fifa ranking.
VN is not careful with the disease of getting their heads too big on the recent victories, they will not make the first round; right now they're basking in confidence ... conceit is their downfall! take them to the mountain to settle their mind down.
i really hope that malaysian football team will improve during this SEA Games...so sad because malaysian team was the best football team in asia once upon a time...although it was a history but it hopes to gain the morale of the players...
fight back malaysia..remember we were once the gold medallist in SEA games..
I will pray for the success of malaysian team.since 1989, there were so many tears and sad stories...
As we can see now, many people in SEA are not mentioning our country as the powerhouse of football anymore...
we should be better rite now, with so many facilities, exposures..dont let down the malaysian....
eventhough there were no medal target, it is better to be like that....prediction is always the prediction..the actual result will be banking on the feet of first eleven....
For me, last 4 would be... Thailand Laos Singapore Indonesia
and, Thailand will remain the champion.
*If we think that Singapore has the foreigners players to play for them, then we all need to prove that they are wrong. Do not look down the people from all Southeast Asian countries.
The Champian is gathered with Tactic / Player Skill and Experience for international revel and the most important is gap between first line up tem and reserev due to it's tournament.
Thailand is be in line for reason above.
A. Skill / Experience
1. Thailand 2. Vienam 3. Sigapore
B.Tactic / Team Preparation
1. Vietnam 2. Sigapore 3. Thailand
C. Gap BTW F/L and Reserve
1. Thailand 2. Vienam 3. Sigapore
Reason.
1. There are 6 Thai players are named in national team (with 3/6 are main player). 2. Vietnam team focus for young player to get experience in this tournament for next champian acheivement sea game 26th
That all for my idea.
-- Edited by Banana on Tuesday 1st of December 2009 12:06:24 AM
Firstly, Thailand, Vietnam and Singapore was strongest team in Sea region and well prepared for this Seagame. Nobody deny it Back to Vietnam last 2 years, they send u23 national team to played Olympic qualified round. They crowned with success when they came to third round with unbelievable result ( win Oman 2-0, win Saudi Arabia 1-0, lose Japan 0-1). After that tournament, all Vietnamese fans have so much confident in their u23 national team, high ability to get a gold in Thailand, but they soon disappointed, their u23 team finished at the semifinal (penalty kick with Myanmar), then lost 0-5 Singapore. For what reason???? Because their u23 team have no more energy, no more power.
Secondly, Laos and Cambodia u23 teams improving so fast, but not enough to go to semifinal this Seagame. Laos has more advantage than Cambodia when they play in their home soil "u23 Cambodia could beat the one of strongest professional Vietnam V-League team and crown the champion" u mean HAGL???? Lets me tell u, HAGL lost 9 player to their national team and u23 team, no Lee Nguyen who played in PSV and now been training in Arsenal, no Thailand national player Thonglao.....they used u21+....Did u know what the name of this tournament???? "BIDC cup" right?? BIDC come from BIDV (Vietnam banking) that's why they lost a "friendly match" "France could become the champion of World Cup 1998 in its home which was a BIG surprise." I think so, because they've got Zidane, Henry... top player of the world. How about Laos???? plz, tell me some Laos player is top player of Sea region
However, loves to see Laos in semifinal, good luck to Laos
MC friends
Hi Fiend,
Good to read your comments. It is very informative.
To respond your question: "How about Laos???? plz, tell me some Laos player is top player of Sea region"
My response would be as follow: Like Cambodia, Laos team is just emerging. But who know, as I said earlier, the ball is round. If you can recall back a bit, South Korean could go for Semi-final in World Cup 2002 created a BIG surprise. I think it is no different from Laos now.
At least, it is not easy for Thailand, Vietnam or Singapore to beat either Cambodia or Laos anymore. They have to work hard or otherwise they will get shocked.
It is nice talking with you.
MC
Hi MC, good to see u again Oh dear, Don't get me wrong, my brother I'm telling u the true about the story, like I said: Laos and Cambodia improving so fast, they played well, good elegant, they have a good coach as well. But in Sea region, we have 2 groups, the first group has Thailand, Vietnam, Singapore, Indonesia, Malaysia and Myanmar, the second group has Laos, Philippines, Cambodia, Brunei,... and there is a wide gap between the first one and the second one, don't u think????? Seagame 25, I overvalue Laos will have a chance to get into semifinal, Cambodia try to win Timor Leste, a draw with last 3 teams will be success for them and just wait for few more year when Seagame organize by Cambodia
Nice talking about Asean-football with u, MC hope to see your comment MC friend
Hi My friend,
Love to talk with you. Now I got your points clearer.
In my opinion, in SEA region the football men teams can be classified as the follow: In the past few years:
First Class 1. Thailand 2. Vietnam 3. Singapore Second Class 1. Malaysia 2. Indonesia 3. Myanmar Third Class 1. Laos 2. Cambodia 3. Philippine 4. East Timor 5. Brunei
You're right. There is a very big gap between the first vs third class.
But for 2009, Laos and Cambodia are claiming the ladder to the second class. So now in total there are 5 members in the second class. As the new comers, they can be big thread for old members in the second class such as Malaysia, Indonesia and Myanmar - but not that much (in terms of thread) to the first class like Thailand & Vietnam.
I wish to see the teams from the second class to crown the champion this time. It is too boring to see either Thailand (especially), or Vietnam, or Singapore win the champion. But it is just the wish. The true will be revealed soon!
Regards, MC
I just wanna throw in my 2cents. I love Laos ppl - how peaceful and friendly they are (my aunt is living there ) I really hope they can progress to the semi finals.
They're playing well - though still weaker than Singapore, Indonesia but Singapore team is very young (average 19 years of age) and Indonesia is always so random. Football is a funny game in that it's always hard to predict. If Laos can somehow manage a win with any of those teams, I think Laos will have a chance to proceed to the semi.
Semifinal : Thailand 1-1 Myanmar PK 3-5 Sigapore 1-2 Vitnem Third place: Thailand 3-1 Singapore fianl : Myanmar 2-1 Vitnem ( OT ) i am Myanmar FUN TRUST ME
Our National team has beaten Cambodia and Laos before so... I think the FIFA ranking is correct. Well, whatever happens, we will just cheer everyone in the finals. As you know we are not a football loving country. :) :)
-- Edited by xxxriainxxx on Wednesday 9th of December 2009 08:28:11 PM
i think vietnam is the strongest side...malaysia second...3rd will be spore or thailand...
thai is not good enough this time..sorry..just my opinion...+ steve darby is the disaster for thai bcoz from my observation when he was the coach for Perak(in malaysia super league),he sucks!
Yes, MAN. The truth never changes. Ranking in FIFA never lie. Not that I have overcome in the Thai team. But believes that it is so. And I have not insulted or overlooked for the chance of other teams, Such as Singapore, Vietnam and Laos also. So I think we should face in the field better. Final results will tell us.
Finally,Sorry for the weakest English of mind. ^_^
Serbia has a ranking higher than France but what is the reason why they can qualify for the world cup final round automatically, and France has to play-off with Ireland....
Football man... let's talk about Football not a Mathermatic subject in the school class.
I believe that Thailand might get a chance once again and the only two conditions that could collapse them pride of this....... is "WILL or DETERMINATION" from another good team such as Vietnam, Singapore and Lao and "Thailand bend down themselve from them poor performance" only these two conditions actually.
I do not know actually why Indonesia team has burn down from the great football in this region...
Notwithstanding Thai team has a very bad preparation and has a very bad player collecting system and bad coaches (Steve and his assistant Kiattisak), the potential player will show them own skill of each player to help them win but not from them team-working, team well-system etc.,.
Took a long ball. Could not run with the ball. Could not drift the ball. Complained other teams everytime when they was attracked aggressively. blar blar blar
You have to know the truth that Thailand has a Thai F.A which this organization always corrupt everything and everyway the could find out for them benefits. As you can see, Thailand deal sponsor with Nike but in this tournament they use Grandsport from the double sponsor and double deals.. shamely
Thai F.A love to collect them boy than another well-performance in the league and does not care to go aginst every football science.... such as keep them boy in the team and kick a well-performed player out of the team.
The Chair man of Thai F.A (FiFa member) always treat themself like a Adoft Hitler. this is the same previous them prime minister... who's corruptor the same.
He loves to control, to be a center of all kind of benefit deal matters.
Do u know why robby come to take place reid???? Reid paid attention to build up a good team but this sicked chairman loved to control him and always pressed reid to work for him pleasure..... that's finally why he was sick and tired with this group of corruptors and this thai F.A chairman, then he handed off and left....
Reid came to Thailand form English F.A just like Robby... they came here for some benefit deal exchange.... do you know that?????
Thai F.A. member is the one of the committees who can vote for the world cup final host like another 19 members therefore England where they have a very good relationship with this thai F.A. chairman and candidate them national for two times for a vote to be a host of the world cup once again... then they exchange this deal together. help you help me and money money money and money ..
Thai chairman has a plan to go candidate for AFC Chirman in the nearest future. You guys, protect your national team so well.. he will use the same this meassure when he come up in the position and your national team would be cried when the bad things unjust happens.....
you vote for my country and I suppot u for a coach .... this was happened before in the period of Mr.Peter Wit many years ago.... but England never shamed themself because Thai F.A. Chairman finally voted for Germany to won a world cup 06 host...
As you know "fool me once, shame on you - fool me twice, sham on me" it is going to happen again by the name of thai F.A. chairman....
Thailand team is burning down by corruption just like them country has a problem from the corruptor in the name of politician if you may check them news on the politic games of FAT SPY..... absurdly actually.
in my opinion this happened the same in Vietman before.
I believe that the will or the determination of the vietnam could be a champion in this tournament and if they can do this, something good will happen for big change of this region football.