25th SEA GAMES, Vientiane, Laos 2009

SilentMouse · Member

Why some sports the host limit event for each country?

manjoe · Member

They're co-host

Ilovesports · Member

manjoe wrote:

They're co-host

AGREE with you.

But many official sponsor from thai.

teddy_freedie · Member

i heard that vietnam and laos are like brother to each other

stickyrice · Veteran Member

Vietnam, Thailand, Cambodia and any other countries are our brothers. Any countries that engages us in a peaceful and friendly environment is considered our brother. We do not hate you. If you disrespect us, we do not want to be involved with you. This is a fundamental thinking of a Lao person.

sephiroth2m · Senior Member

You Thai should better ask why Vietnam can do that but Thai can't, instead of moaning all day like this. So boring

THAI-WIB · Senior Member

manjoe wrote:

They're co-host

Laos and Vietnam (behind back) ashamed

kuwe KL · Veteran Member

THAI-WIB wrote:
manjoe wrote:
They're co-host
Laos and Vietnam (behind back)

agree...they are co-conspirator...they will do everything to win...what a shame..

BamBoo · Senior Member

THAI-WIB wrote:

manjoe wrote:

They're co-host

Laos and Vietnam (behind back)

Don't say like that!!!

They'r confront!!

dammio · Veteran Member

Dear Bamboo,

Now you ... I mean you look like a tease. This forum is our ASIAN depend on the sport spirit.

The other things (relationship btw Thai and Laos or Viet or Malay, ... about politics) should not be here. Thank !

By the way, you can right to do anything. But it is now, that's enought. We heard that enought. That's enought. Stop it, make friends, talk each others somthing fun. OK !

BamBoo · Senior Member

dammio wrote:

Dear Bamboo,

Now you ... I mean you look like a tease. This forum is our ASIAN depend on the sport spirit.

The other things (relationship btw Thai and Laos or Viet or Malay, ... about politics) should not be here. Thank !

By the way, you can right to do anything. But it is now, that's enought. We heard that enought. That's enought. Stop it, make friends, talk each others somthing fun. OK !

While I watched something in YOUTUBE...

Tell me how to calm down at that time...

keep in touch..bro

jeez · Newbie

sephiroth2m wrote:
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You Thai should better ask why Vietnam can do that but Thai can't, instead of moaning all day like this. So boring
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Trust urself

But this situation is not normal.
Although the Thai (or any country) authority didn't complain anything caused by relationship between our country but I agree with Thai's fan. They can notice and complain that.

If all of VNmese think this is fair. I have nothing to talk. However, besically , the one way that the Vietnam can establish your country as a power house in ASEAN is

"YOU MUST SHOW YOUR ABILITY IN ASIAN GAME & OLYMPIC"

At least better than Thailand can do in the present day.

dammio · Veteran Member

Ok, so what if I watch something video by Thai language like this and I'm not calm down. Just video, my friend. Be friend.

THAI-WIB · Senior Member

OK! It's just a VIDEO.
However I will download, upload and share that video to my friends in Europe and USA.

Good Luck

detom · Veteran Member

THAI-WIB wrote:

OK! It's just a VIDEO.
However I will download, upload and share that video to my friends in Europe and USA.

Good Luck

good job man, that's video is really enough and enough...

abcxyz · Veteran Member

SilentMouse wrote:

From recent sport talks in some topic

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Vietnam has sent all of 16 events in Finswimming and got 8 golds,8 silvers,9 bronzes.

While other sports the host limit event for each country?
such as Boxing,Weightlifting, sepak-takraw,takawndo. (Thailand is very strong in these sports )

So that the reason why Thai people think it's quite unfair.
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I'm Thai but I don't know about this SEA game system. If the above speech is true. I also think it's quite unfair for Thailand (or any country).

Boxing - we got gold medal in Olympic 1996, 2000, 2004, 2008 and addition with silver and bronze.

Sepak-Takraw- we got gold medal in Asian Game 1998, 2002, 2006 almost every events (silver and bronze are very few exception).

Weightlifing- we got 2 gold medals in Olympic 2004 and 1 gold medal in Olympic 2008 and addition with the other medals.

Takwando- we never got gold medal in Olympic but we got silver and bronze in Olympic 2004, 2008.

Why the host country limit the international sports for each country but unlimit some local sports as Finswimming (16 events) although they realized that Vietnam had dominant in this sport???

=))=))=))=))=))

That's is SEAGames. That's is very normal. When your country is host, other country will say that too.

SEAGames is not Asian Games or Olympic. Host nation always have the advantage

detom · Veteran Member

abcxyz wrote:

SilentMouse wrote:

From recent sport talks in some topic

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Vietnam has sent all of 16 events in Finswimming and got 8 golds,8 silvers,9 bronzes.

While other sports the host limit event for each country?
such as Boxing,Weightlifting, sepak-takraw,takawndo. (Thailand is very strong in these sports )

So that the reason why Thai people think it's quite unfair.
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I'm Thai but I don't know about this SEA game system. If the above speech is true. I also think it's quite unfair for Thailand (or any country).

Boxing - we got gold medal in Olympic 1996, 2000, 2004, 2008 and addition with silver and bronze.

Sepak-Takraw- we got gold medal in Asian Game 1998, 2002, 2006 almost every events (silver and bronze are very few exception).

Weightlifing- we got 2 gold medals in Olympic 2004 and 1 gold medal in Olympic 2008 and addition with the other medals.

Takwando- we never got gold medal in Olympic but we got silver and bronze in Olympic 2004, 2008.

Why the host country limit the international sports for each country but unlimit some local sports as Finswimming (16 events) although they realized that Vietnam had dominant in this sport???

=))=))=))=))=))
That's is SEAGames. That's is very normal. When your country is host, other country will say that too.
SEAGames is not Asian Games or Olympic. Host nation always have the advantage

and this time u r co-host right since u get favor from laos too muchhhhh.... smile

anyway the games are over ... go for the next two years....

BravoVN · Veteran Member

SilentMouse wrote:

From recent sport talks in some topic

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Vietnam has sent all of 16 events in Finswimming and got 8 golds,8 silvers,9 bronzes.

While other sports the host limit event for each country?
such as Boxing,Weightlifting, sepak-takraw,takawndo. (Thailand is very strong in these sports )

So that the reason why Thai people think it's quite unfair.
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I'm Thai but I don't know about this SEA game system. If the above speech is true. I also think it's quite unfair for Thailand (or any country).

Boxing - we got gold medal in Olympic 1996, 2000, 2004, 2008 and addition with silver and bronze.

Sepak-Takraw- we got gold medal in Asian Game 1998, 2002, 2006 almost every events (silver and bronze are very few exception).

Weightlifing- we got 2 gold medals in Olympic 2004 and 1 gold medal in Olympic 2008 and addition with the other medals.

Takwando- we never got gold medal in Olympic but we got silver and bronze in Olympic 2004, 2008.

Why the host country limit the international sports for each country but unlimit some local sports as Finswimming (16 events) although they realized that Vietnam had dominant in this sport???

In taekwondo, you should know that Vietnam is strong in this sport too, VN got silver medal in Olympic 2000 ( in seagames 2009, thailand got 6 gold medal, and vietnam got 5 gold), so limit events is fair to every country. You shouldn't think that limit events in your strong sport is unfair.
In sepak takraw, do you know that Thailand sent all event in SEA games 2007??? And thailand (not other country) brought intention that each country just join 6/8 events.
Vietnam just sent 4/7 events in Shuttlecok ( a sport that many peple think it is a local sport). What do you think about it?

THAI-WIB · Senior Member

BravoVN wrote:
In taekwondo, you should know that Vietnam is strong in this sport too, VN got silver medal in Olympic 2000 ( in seagames 2009, thailand got 6 gold medal, and vietnam got 5 gold), so limit events is fair to every country. You shouldn't think that limit events in your strong sport is unfair.
In sepak takraw, do you know that Thailand sent all event in SEA games 2007??? And thailand (not other country) brought intention that each country just join 6/8 events.
Vietnam just sent 4/7 events in Shuttlecok ( a sport that many peple think it is a local sport). What do you think about it?

How about Vietnam sent 16/16 events in Finswimming this year.
In fact, Laos is a host. What do you think about it?

-- Edited by THAI-WIB on Friday 18th of December 2009 03:52:16 AM

BravoVN · Veteran Member

THAI-WIB wrote:

BravoVN wrote:
In taekwondo, you should know that Vietnam is strong in this sport too, VN got silver medal in Olympic 2000 ( in seagames 2009, thailand got 6 gold medal, and vietnam got 5 gold), so limit events is fair to every country. You shouldn't think that limit events in your strong sport is unfair.
In sepak takraw, do you know that Thailand sent all event in SEA games 2007??? And thailand (not other country) brought intention that each country just join 6/8 events.
Vietnam just sent 4/7 events in Shuttlecok ( a sport that many peple think it is a local sport). What do you think about it?

How about Vietnam sent 16/16 events in Finswimming this year.
In fact, Laos is a host. What do you think about it?

-- Edited by THAI-WIB on Friday 18th of December 2009 03:52:16 AM

Limiting or unlimit events in sport is decided by association, passed by all country in SEA. therefore it is fair.

In finswimming, rule doesn't limit events, so VN can join all. You shouldn't put the question why VN sent 16/16, you must inquire reason why Thailand didnt join all events.

THAI-WIB · Senior Member

BravoVN wrote:

Limiting or unlimit events in sport is decided by association, passed by all country in SEA. therefore it is fair.
In finswimming, rule doesn't limit events, so VN can join all. You shouldn't put the question why VN sent 16/16, you must inquire reason why Thailand didnt join all events.

Is it fair? How ???
I still don't get it.

The post before you've just said "You shouldn't think that limit events in your strong sport is unfair."
You said like Vietnam isn't strong at Finswimming and Shuttlecok, so Vietnam can send athletes to join in all events of Finswimming. Are you okay?

Vietnam and Laos are only two host which put these two local sport in to SEA Games. If finswimming & shuttlecok are interesting sport, why Myanmar, Malaysia, Singapore, Brunei and Philippines did't join the competition. Even though Indonesia joined in Finswimming, but they remove them both in the next SEA Games.

Champa · Member

I agree with limiting event. Because it share chance to all countries, Not monopoly by one.
I think it impossible to limit number of events for each team in Finswimming.
Only Thai,Laos,Indo,Viet send athletics in this sport.
If you limit, Some of events from 16 events in Finswimming would have only 1 - 2 team join the race.

SilentMouse · Member

Limiting or unlimit events in sport is decided by association, passed by all country in SEA. therefore it is fair.
In finswimming, rule doesn't limit events, so VN can join all. You shouldn't put the question why VN sent 16/16, you must inquire reason why Thailand didnt join all events.

BravoVN

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Up to now. Only one question in my brain is :
How do you pressure the host country for arrange the events/programmes benefit to Vietnam?

Not only Thailand.
but this SEA games also cut international sport as Basketball, Horse Riding, Fenching, Cannu, Gymnastic, etc.
I convice that all the above sports you are not the top ranking in ASEAN.
But Do you know?
Finswimming, Shuttlecok, Karatedo, WuShu have almost 60 events FOR YOU.
OK you refer
"Limiting or unlimit events in sport is decided by association, passed by all country in SEA. therefore it is fair"
You should know that because of reason of relationship. Our SEAGAME comittee in every countries seldom reject the host proposal.
Excuse me
How about your ASIAN GAMES and OLYMPICS standing in the last decade?

THAI-WIB · Senior Member

Champa wrote:

I agree with limiting event. Because it share chance to all countries, Not monopoly by one.
I think it impossible to limit number of events for each team in Finswimming.
Only Thai,Laos,Indo,Viet send athletics in this sport.
If you limit, Some of events from 16 events in Finswimming would have only 1 - 2 team join the race.

That's the reason that Laos shouldn't put the sports like this into Seagame.
It's not necessary to competition, just give the gold medal free.

BamBoo · Senior Member

THAI-WIB wrote:

BravoVN wrote:

Limiting or unlimit events in sport is decided by association, passed by all country in SEA. therefore it is fair.
In finswimming, rule doesn't limit events, so VN can join all. You shouldn't put the question why VN sent 16/16, you must inquire reason why Thailand didnt join all events.

Is it fair? How ???
I still don't get it.

The post before you've just said "You shouldn't think that limit events in your strong sport is unfair."
You said like Vietnam isn't strong at Finswimming and Shuttlecok, so Vietnam can send athletes to join in all events of Finswimming. Are you okay?

Vietnam and Laos are only two host which put these two local sport in to SEA Games. If finswimming & shuttlecok are interesting sport, why Myanmar, Malaysia, Singapore, Brunei and Philippines did't join the competition. Even though Indonesia joined in Finswimming, but they remove them both in the next SEA Games.

U just directed to the point !!

He might loss the balance of mind

sephiroth2m · Senior Member

I'm so surprise! Why my Thai friends can all day moan continuously and shamelessly about local sports like finswimming & shuttlecok. Do they have the ability to see some silly sports like Muay or sepak (cant remember its name exactly) are included, too?
Are they all blind or simply shameless BIG mouth?

only games · Member

Champa wrote:

I agree with limiting event. Because it share chance to all countries, Not monopoly by one.
I think it impossible to limit number of events for each team in Finswimming.
Only Thai,Laos,Indo,Viet send athletics in this sport.
If you limit, Some of events from 16 events in Finswimming would have only 1 - 2 team join the race.

This is a reason why should not put this sport in to competitive list.

VN should be promote until more than 5 country interest first. and then start for competition.

sephiroth2m · Senior Member

Why 5, and not 4, can you give me some reason, mate?

Nm · Member

sephiroth2m wrote:

I'm so surprise! Why my Thai friends can all day moan continuously and shamelessly about local sports like finswimming & shuttlecok. Do they have the ability to see some silly sports like Muay or sepak (cant remember its name exactly) are included, too?
Are they all blind or simply shameless BIG mouth?

Because Muay an Sepak are limited event.

but FinSwimming is unlimited.

THAI-WIB · Senior Member

sephiroth2m wrote:

I'm so surprise! Why my Thai friends can all day moan continuously and shamelessly about local sports like finswimming & shuttlecok. Do they have the ability to see some silly sports like Muay or sepak (cant remember its name exactly) are included, too?
Are they all blind or simply shameless BIG mouth?

It's not only Thailand. Have you ever tried to ask other country like Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia and the Philippines about their opinion on the local sport.

Hey you guy....
He said Muay and Sepak Trakraw are silly sport. 555+

So how about this ??

only games · Member

sephiroth2m wrote:

Why 5, and not 4, can you give me some reason, mate?

Because 5 is almost half of 11.

That mean it nearly Majority.

With Democracy method it should be 6 country.

-- Edited by only games on Friday 18th of December 2009 06:16:18 AM

THAI-WIB · Senior Member

only games wrote:

Because 5 is almost half of 11.

That mean it nearly Majority.

With Democracy method it should be 6 country.

You're RIGHT bleh

jeez · Newbie

Even burn the malaysia flag. Sephiroth2m still think that it's correct.

Sephiroth2m only post the Malaysia player LOOK LIKE rude. But he has never blame this bad activity of VNmese.
http://seagames.activeboard.com/forum.spark?aBID=130642&p=3&topicID=32940010

kuwe KL · Veteran Member

THAI-WIB wrote:
only games wrote:

Because 5 is almost half of 11.

That mean it nearly Majority.

With Democracy method it should be 6 country.
You're RIGHT

im wondering if Viet and Laos know anything about Democracy...i highly doubt about it..

sephiroth2m · Senior Member

THAI-WIB wrote:

only games wrote:

Because 5 is almost half of 11.

That mean it nearly Majority.

With Democracy method it should be 6 country.

You're RIGHT

"almost half", "nearly Majority" biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin You are so funny biggrin biggrin biggrin

That's all you can think of, mate???

And in democracy, I think it should be 1 (king) to rule it all biggrin

detom · Veteran Member

kuwe KL wrote:

THAI-WIB wrote:
only games wrote:

Because 5 is almost half of 11.

That mean it nearly Majority.

With Democracy method it should be 6 country.
You're RIGHT

im wondering if Viet and Laos know anything about Democracy...i highly doubt about it..

Come on..that;s a big blind for them...

THAI-WIB · Senior Member

sephiroth2m wrote:

"almost half", "nearly Majority" You are so funny
That's all you can think of, mate???
And in democracy, I think it should be 1 (king) to rule it all

OMG What a PITY? man
I'm afraid you know a little about Thailand political system.
Do you even wonder why ALL Thai people love our King? It's our pride.
You never feel like us because you don't have the KING.

I don't care what you said, it's worthless for me.

-- Edited by THAI-WIB on Friday 18th of December 2009 06:39:36 AM

jeez · Newbie

Sephiroth2m
Can you guess that your attitude/activity in this board impress us the positive or negative view for your country?
I feel it's worthless for me also to talk with this guy. goodbye

BamBoo · Senior Member

Be cool Thai-WIB

Don't exchange your value krub

Stop it as you ever recommend me, na ja

sephiroth2m · Senior Member

THAI-WIB wrote:

sephiroth2m wrote:

"almost half", "nearly Majority" You are so funny
That's all you can think of, mate???
And in democracy, I think it should be 1 (king) to rule it all

OMG What a PITY? man
I'm afraid you know a little about Thailand political system.
Do you even wonder why ALL Thai people love our King? It's our pride.
You never feel like us because you don't have the KING.

I don't care what you said, it's worthless for me.

-- Edited by THAI-WIB on Friday 18th of December 2009 06:39:36 AM

Sorry mate, i never feel like you, agree, and you never feel like me, too

So stop talking about politics, ok?

Nm · Member

Ok

sephiroth2m · Senior Member

jeez wrote:

Sephiroth2m
Can you guess that your attitude/activity in this board impress us the positive or negative view for your country?
I feel it's worthless for me also to talk with this guy. goodbye

sorry, guy, where are u from? Thais' impress here is really cool, huh? what a shame....

BravoVN · Veteran Member

THAI-WIB wrote:

BravoVN wrote:

Limiting or unlimit events in sport is decided by association, passed by all country in SEA. therefore it is fair.
In finswimming, rule doesn't limit events, so VN can join all. You shouldn't put the question why VN sent 16/16, you must inquire reason why Thailand didnt join all events.

Is it fair? How ???
I still don't get it.

The post before you've just said "You shouldn't think that limit events in your strong sport is unfair."
You said like Vietnam isn't strong at Finswimming and Shuttlecok, so Vietnam can send athletes to join in all events of Finswimming. Are you okay?

Vietnam and Laos are only two host which put these two local sport in to SEA Games. If finswimming & shuttlecok are interesting sport, why Myanmar, Malaysia, Singapore, Brunei and Philippines did't join the competition. Even though Indonesia joined in Finswimming, but they remove them both in the next SEA Games.

I think you might think more before posting. Because you don't understand my opinion.
Muay, Sepak are local sports of your country, you know that they are limited events in this time seagames, so your country won't get some of gold medal. However, vietnam could join all events in finswimming, so you think its unfair.
According your opinion, this seagames is unfair to Thailand. But why you don't look back last seagames (2007), Thailand joined all events in Muay, sepak-takraw!!! Do you think it is fair?????

THAI-WIB · Senior Member

BravoVN wrote:
THAI-WIB wrote:

BravoVN wrote:

Limiting or unlimit events in sport is decided by association, passed by all country in SEA. therefore it is fair.

In finswimming, rule doesn't limit events, so VN can join all. You shouldn't put the question why VN sent 16/16, you must inquire reason why Thailand didnt join all events.

Is it fair? How ???
I still don't get it.

The post before you've just said "You shouldn't think that limit events in your strong sport is unfair."
You said like Vietnam isn't strong at Finswimming and Shuttlecok, so Vietnam can send athletes to join in all events of Finswimming. Are you okay?

Vietnam and Laos are only two host which put these two local sport in to SEA Games. If finswimming & shuttlecok are interesting sport, why Myanmar, Malaysia, Singapore, Brunei and Philippines did't join the competition. Even though Indonesia joined in Finswimming, but they remove them both in the next SEA Games.

I think you might think more before posting. Because you don't understand my opinion.
Muay, Sepak are local sports of your country, you know that they are limited events in this time seagames, so your country won't get some of gold medal. However, vietnam could join all events in finswimming, so you think its unfair.
According your opinion, this seagames is unfair to Thailand. But why you don't look back last seagames (2007), Thailand joined all events in Muay, sepak-takraw!!! Do you think it is fair?????

If you still ask me like this, I will ask you like this again too.
Back to SEA Game 2003 in Vietnam, Vietnam is the first country which put Finswimming & Shuttlecok into SEA Games. Moreover,they also joined all events in these sport!!!
Do you think it is fair????

It's not necessary to talk about the past because you and me try to refer own reason to fight back.
It's won't be FINISH.

THAI-WIB · Senior Member

sephiroth2m wrote:

THAI-WIB wrote:

sephiroth2m wrote:

"almost half", "nearly Majority" You are so funny
That's all you can think of, mate???
And in democracy, I think it should be 1 (king) to rule it all

OMG What a PITY? man
I'm afraid you know a little about Thailand political system.
Do you even wonder why ALL Thai people love our King? It's our pride.
You never feel like us because you don't have the KING.

I don't care what you said, it's worthless for me.

-- Edited by THAI-WIB on Friday 18th of December 2009 06:39:36 AM

Sorry mate, i never feel like you, agree, and you never feel like me, too
So stop talking about politics, ok?

Alright

No more politics, but be polite :)
We are talking about why some sports the host limit event for each country? just like Thailand

ashamed

sephiroth2m · Senior Member

Can we finish it here and leave those really bad stuffs behind us, mates? I think arguing now is meaningless. Just look ahead and find if we become friends
Sorry if i did something wrong

BravoVN · Veteran Member

THAI-WIB wrote:

BravoVN wrote:
THAI-WIB wrote:

BravoVN wrote:

Limiting or unlimit events in sport is decided by association, passed by all country in SEA. therefore it is fair.

In finswimming, rule doesn't limit events, so VN can join all. You shouldn't put the question why VN sent 16/16, you must inquire reason why Thailand didnt join all events.

Is it fair? How ???
I still don't get it.

The post before you've just said "You shouldn't think that limit events in your strong sport is unfair."
You said like Vietnam isn't strong at Finswimming and Shuttlecok, so Vietnam can send athletes to join in all events of Finswimming. Are you okay?

Vietnam and Laos are only two host which put these two local sport in to SEA Games. If finswimming & shuttlecok are interesting sport, why Myanmar, Malaysia, Singapore, Brunei and Philippines did't join the competition. Even though Indonesia joined in Finswimming, but they remove them both in the next SEA Games.

I think you might think more before posting. Because you don't understand my opinion.
Muay, Sepak are local sports of your country, you know that they are limited events in this time seagames, so your country won't get some of gold medal. However, vietnam could join all events in finswimming, so you think its unfair.
According your opinion, this seagames is unfair to Thailand. But why you don't look back last seagames (2007), Thailand joined all events in Muay, sepak-takraw!!! Do you think it is fair?????

If you still ask me like this, I will ask you like this again too.
Back to SEA Game 2003 in Vietnam, Vietnam is the first country which put Finswimming & Shuttlecok into SEA Games. Moreover,they also joined all events in these sport!!!
Do you think it is fair????

It's not necessary to talk about the past because you and me try to refer own reason to fight back.
It's won't be FINISH.

OK... In sport always have unfair, kick it out hardly.
I am bored indisputing with you, you and me are correctly, I respect your opinion, and hope you respect mine too.
good luck to you :D

LeHung · Member

We are all friends. The host nation always propose their strong sport games in Sea Games because this is the time they promote their nation to others. Each country has their own strong points and they just want to introduce their sports to the games to make their games international games. Vietnam, Thailand, the Philippines... do the same way. We all respect each other because we compete with each other not only for gold medals but also for funs, for mutual understandings, for love, for soul and so on.

DON'T WORRY, BE HAPPY!!!

That's all what I want to say with you!

THAI-WIB · Senior Member

I alway respect your opinion.
Now, it's time to stop arguement between you and me. I think I have a little of headache, so it's time to sleep.

Good Night you guys

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