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At first, I intended to listen then reply with other members in their topics. But I think this is a hot topic for us to discuss.

Yeah, We know that seagames contain so many local sports, and some of us are not happy seein' other countries get GM from "only -they - know" sports.
Of course, if you see it that way, if you consider Seagames are sports competitions.

Let's look at the very beginnin purpose of it. Since south east asia is a large region of the world,with different ethnics and unique cultures, special traditions. It deserved a local sport event, apart from Asian or Olympic games. The problem is, there are always 2 streams,the first, lookin forward to see Seagames as tournaments for local athletes to improve their skills, second, consider it as a festival for us to get to understand each other's culture.

Long long time ago ( I mean 20 or 30 years ago), level of sports in different parts of the world were not the same as today, there were big gaps. But since the world is developin' , and SEA has the highest developin rate, I think the gaps are being shortened. Thailand, Singapore, Malaysia,Indonesia can catch up with the world in some sports, and leading in some.

Travel & transport is never been easier, now our athletes have so many chance to compete in various tournaments from over d world.We have many sport events, in Asia, in the world, in many different sports.It's an opening world.

Therefore , I think we shouldn't consider seagames as a tournament, but rather a sport festival.
Personally, I find myself interested in all the local sports in Seagames, for example : Sepa takraw, the movements of athletes in Sepak is very beautiful, smooth, no matter it's regu or competive.

Or Muay Thai, Philipine's stick arts, Vovinam or Pencak, they're uniquely martial arts that no others coutries have.

I think we should proud of those sports we have, and lend our hands, spreadin' them world wide, rather than close our doors and playin the game ourselfves.

Don't take those gold medals too seriously. I know, athletes trained all days, for a long time just to shine in one moment. But this is seagames, where our traditions and culture are introduced to each others through sports.

I agree with you that we should focus on official olympics sports. But we can focus on them both, right ? Some1 can not say he can't get high score in local sports just because he's only care about official olympics games.

We've already had many sports event for offical olympic games world wide, should let our local sports a chance , shouldn't we ?


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I think the SEA Games should remove all kind local sports such as Muay, Pencak Silat, Petanque, Finswimming, Shuttlecok and Karatedo (except for Sepak Takraw and Wushu because they are officially in Asian Games since 1990)

But local sport can play in Sea Games for show or example only.
When EVERY asian countries can play them, that's time to put local sport into Sea games.

Actually, I don't want to see all of them in Sea Games because they're not professional.

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THAI-WIB wrote:

I think the SEA Games should remove all kind local sports such as Muay, Pencak Silat, Petanque, Finswimming, Shuttlecok and Karatedo (except for Sepak Takraw and Wushu because they are officially in Asian Games since 1990)

But local sport can play in Sea Games for show or example only.
When EVERY asian countries can play them, that's time to put local sport into Sea games.

Actually, I don't want to see all of them in Sea Games because they're not professional.



To become officially In Asian Game or Olypic Game it should be start from region my friend How can Wushu and Sepak Takraw become officila in Asian Game if at the began every body said that were Thai's and China local sport? Take it easy my friend.

 



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Finswiming is not a local sport. It not show local character.  
It isn't included in the Asiangames or the Olympic. Very small number of people in SEA play this sport.
Why it is included in this Seagames????

I think because of the host country want her communist friend to win the competition.
Is this correct?
Please give me a reason?

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I think because of the host country want her communist friend to win the competition.
Is this correct?
Please give me a reason?


If you don't want to play, then just don't compete, it's so simple.

It's a game, you can choose to play or not. They're the host. Just wait until your country is the host then you can do what you want. Sitting here complaining cant solve anything.

Actually I think if you really tke the medals or official sports seriously, the local sports will be your advantages.
When others countries focus on locals spots, they waste their human power and money to invest in it, so your athletes have better chance in their profession, don't you think ?

When you're aiming for something bigger, why complain about silly things ?

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THAI-WIB wrote:


I think the SEA Games should remove all kind local sports such as Muay, Pencak Silat, Petanque, Finswimming, Shuttlecok and Karatedo (except for Sepak Takraw and Wushu because they are officially in Asian Games since 1990)

But local sport can play in Sea Games for show or example only.
When EVERY asian countries can play them, that's time to put local sport into Sea games.

Actually, I don't want to see all of them in Sea Games because they're not professional.



still not that smart and good idea!

 



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Eversong wrote:

I think because of the host country want her communist friend to win the competition.
Is this correct?
Please give me a reason?


If you don't want to play, then just don't compete, it's so simple.

It's a game, you can choose to play or not. They're the host. Just wait until your country is the host then you can do what you want. Sitting here complaining cant solve anything.

Actually I think if you really tke the medals or official sports seriously, the local sports will be your advantages.
When others countries focus on locals spots, they waste their human power and money to invest in it, so your athletes have better chance in their profession, don't you think ?

When you're aiming for something bigger, why complain about silly things ?

-- Edited by Eversong on Wednesday 16th of December 2009 07:12:19 AM




When we see a silly things on the Seagames, we should complain on it, This will make the Seagames more fair, more professional ,more improved in the future.

Is this right?



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still not that smart and good idea!



Why do say like this ? I've just shared my idea.
Did I wrote something wrong ? I think I wrote the TRUTH.
If you are smarter than me, please give me a reson why my post is still not smart and good idea.
I want a make-sense reason, do not try to refer anything from Wikipedia OK?

Oh...one question
Where do you come from ?

 



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Nm wrote:

Finswiming is not a local sport.
It isn't included in the Asiangames or the Olympic. Very small number of people in SEA play this sport.
Why it is included in this Seagames????

I think because of the host country want her communist friend to win the competition.
Is this correct?
Please give me a reason?

-- Edited by Nm on Wednesday 16th of December 2009 07:07:42 AM



It's a rule of the game you know, mate. I think everyone, except Thai, have no problem accepting it, as they will add their local sports when they organize SEA games

 



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In fact before Sea Game I heard that Thai Olypic council accepted that they may be number 2 in total medal but should get the gold medal for football and untill 2day they lost all in football that why they start cry on other things.

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sephiroth2m wrote:

 

Nm wrote:

Finswiming is not a local sport. It not show local character.  
It isn't included in the Asiangames or the Olympic. Very small number of people in SEA play this sport.
Why it is included in this Seagames????

I think because of the host country want her communist friend to win the competition.
Is this correct?
Please give me a reason?

-- Edited by Nm on Wednesday 16th of December 2009 07:07:42 AM



It's a rule of the game you know, mate. I think everyone, except Thai, have no problem accepting it, as they will add their local sports when they organize SEA games

 

 




I agree with you, It's rule of the game that the host(previous hosts also) can choose the sports to make some countries have obviously advantage/disadvantage. But I don't think this is a good criteria.

Is this right?



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maxismylove wrote:

still not that smart and good idea!



Why do say like this ? I've just shared my idea.
Did I wrote something wrong ? I think I wrote the TRUTH.
If you are smarter than me, please give me a reson why my post is still not smart and good idea.
I want a make-sense reason, do not try to refer anything from Wikipedia OK?

Oh...one question
Where do you come from ?

 


The reason was given before, but i think you did not read it;
-first, for a sport to be popular, it need to be played locally first. how do you want EVERY nations to play a sport before putting it in SEA games, it's impossible. You need to put it in SEA games for SOME to play before EVERY can play. It is the way for it to be more popular in the world, too.
-second, local sports show local character. It's the way to understand each other more, too
-third, every nations have chance to promote their sports, Thai, Viet, Laos, Sing.... all have same chance
-last but not least, playing local sports in SEA games does not have much impact with the developping of Olympics sports, they still have lots of chance to develop. We cannot blame local sport for low-standard of Olympics sports. It depends on many other reasons.


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KinKin wrote:

In fact before Sea Game I heard that Thai Olypic council accepted that they may be number 2 in total medal but should get the gold medal for football and untill 2day they lost all in football that why they start cry on other things.




 Hey hey
 Please stay in the point of topic :(
 It's look like you're maybe angry that why you put irrelevant thing to complain  me (Thailand) in this topic, right ?

 Actually, we don't care about medal tally in Seagames, we keep an eye on Asian Game & Olympic Games only.

In Sea Games, this year Thailand isn't strong like in the past, and many asean countries develop their ability in International sports. Yes I accept them like Vietnam and Singapore, but what about the successful in for local sport ???



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THAI-WIB wrote:

I think the SEA Games should remove all kind local sports such as Muay, Pencak Silat, Petanque, Finswimming, Shuttlecok and Karatedo (except for Sepak Takraw and Wushu because they are officially in Asian Games since 1990)

But local sport can play in Sea Games for show or example only.
When EVERY asian countries can play them, that's time to put local sport into Sea games.

Actually, I don't want to see all of them in Sea Games because they're not professional.



what ever people said...i agree with u... hehehehehhehe.
(the judges must be very profesional)

 



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Local sports?hmm..gud as promotion 2 d country.entertaining yet intererting.no prob 4 me.cheers Lao

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I agree with MANZUST about the judges. There can be as many local sports as you want. I don't really mind. If Thai can't win the medal team because of these local sports it's fine by me.
I just want all the judges in all sports that participate in SEA games are to be professional.
Every time and everywhere SEA games 's host will take the advantage of being the host.
This time in Laos is one of the fairest SEA game in history. But next time can we count on the host and all the judges to be like this time in Laos?
When sports like gymnastic return I think they will end up the same as before,cheating by the referees and judges.
I don't want lacal sports to be cancel in SEA game, I just want all this cheating and bad judging to be gone in SEA game.
I think that's more important than the local sports.

You want every nations to take interested in our SEA game, make it PURE and you'll have it.

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KinKin wrote:

THAI-WIB wrote:

I think the SEA Games should remove all kind local sports such as Muay, Pencak Silat, Petanque, Finswimming, Shuttlecok and Karatedo (except for Sepak Takraw and Wushu because they are officially in Asian Games since 1990)

But local sport can play in Sea Games for show or example only.
When EVERY asian countries can play them, that's time to put local sport into Sea games.

Actually, I don't want to see all of them in Sea Games because they're not professional.



To become officially In Asian Game or Olypic Game it should be start from region my friend How can Wushu and Sepak Takraw become officila in Asian Game if at the began every body said that were Thai's and China local sport? Take it easy my friend.

 



but the trend today is the host wil put more and more local sport to grab medal..that's **** like this time in laos. they cut too many inter sport.

 



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Actually, I don't want to see all of them in Sea Games because they're not professional.

very good

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