25th SEA GAMES, Vientiane, Laos 2009

No sailing too. If not Singapore could get another 6 or more golds. Now, there's nothing to anticipate.

Laos is landlocked, hence no sea for sailing.

Cheers...

That's why the sport in Southeast Asia is not developed, we're still stay in the same place.
I wish the next Sea Games will remove Local Sports like Fin-Swimming, Shuttlec-ock, Muay(not Boxing), Penchak Silat, Karatedo and Judo

Let's wait and see Thailand and Vietnam to host winter olympic games next time

THAI-WIB wrote:

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That's why the sport in Southeast Asia is not developed, we're still stay in the same place.
I wish the next Sea Games will remove Local Sports like Fin-Swimming, Shuttlec-ock, Muay(not Boxing), Penchak Silat, Karatedo and Judo

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Why remove Karatedo and Judo???

Judo is a sport in Olympic games, I'm sure that it's never removed from Seagames.

Although Karate isn't in olympic game, karate isn't removed, because karate is popular sport over the world, even more popular than Taekwondo (a olympic sport), and karate presents in ASIAD.

I think Sea games should remove Finswimming, shutte****, Muay Thai, Pentaque.

 because of the culture,the value,the sports in this region . those sports in olympic just begin and develope from sport in each region.

Yeah, and I am proud of being a SEA and playing SEA sports.
And any effort of athletes make me proud, no problem if he/she plays local or Olympic sport

BravoVN wrote:

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I think Sea games should remove Finswimming, shutte****, Muay Thai, Pentaque.

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 I completely agree with you.

Baosheng are you kidding brother....SEA is south east asian..and you know that right..hahaha
No sea sports..yes i know , no gymnastics..no this no that....heck yeah....I know that its up to Laos to put up whats played. However....think about laos economics situation. We cánt complain too much here folks. Cause we give smaller countries a chance to celebrate and help them develop toọ

Its not like the U.S is the host. But i think as a whole region, we can do something to improve. For example...being flexible and strong, gymnastics is the sport that we can develop quick without investing alot of money. Thats the sport that does not depend on our unique geography. Just hire good coach from China or Russia or the U.S, then start training these boys from age 10 or something. I believe if we have the right kind of attention... we can do this.

you dont have to be 180cm tall and 100kg to be a gymnist. So being smaller and flexible and strong, this is perfect for south east asians

Save your traditional sports. Save your culture.

I think for those guys ,who said SEAGAME is just a celebration, just say an excuse..........

Even though Thailand might be the overall champion at last, but the Thais will not satisfy it as it was happened before. We just bore about why don't you guys develop yourself. For recent, if you want to be the SEAGAME champion or you want to get a gold medal, the easy way is just be the host and asks every SEAGAME members for giving the gold medals to the host country- Yeah, It is a celebration, right?

We have lots of examples showing that sometime the host country was the champion by cheating and their people was very proud of being number 1 in South East Asia. But when Olympic game or Asian game had came, they just received only 4 or 5 or None Medals. And this kind of cases often happen several times. Yeah! As you said "it's just a party".

Although our government also summit this kind of party, our people are so boring about this party which making the quality of athletes are so poorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr......

Even though we might be the champion in this game, but we will not very proud because you guys just play it as a party.

-- Edited by Ty on Tuesday 15th of December 2009 02:04:12 PM

D host has got rights 2 include games she wanted beside d compulsary games tat r endorsed by d Seagames commitees

It seems that only some Thai people complain so much about local sports and Olympics sports. Why Malay, Indo, Sing... don't do that? Are some of you here feel inconvenient for being threaten to your top rank? Pliz take it easy, to be on top or not in a game is not that important.
Just for a friendship of Asean!

"I think for those guys ,who said SEAGAME is just a celebration, just say an excuse.........."
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Ty, you are mis-understanding the point when someone saying Seagames is a celebration. Yes ofcourse i feel uneasy when host cheats. It happened in the philipines, and its happening now. However its actually more friendship and sport more than sport and sport competition. What i mean by that is we know it, but we just take it easy. Not every hos country could be the winner. Only top countries in the region can make that happen. So Laos is not going to be the over all winner, because they dont have the ability to turn the oppotunity into advantage yệt Although they will in the future. For example if they cheat and do all kinds of things and have most of the total gold medals, do you honestly think they are really the winner? No right. I believe the athletes compete whole heartedly and aggressively, but the results we just take it easy. Cause after all i dont think there is one absolute winner in the region. Not Thailand. no. Thailand may be good in one thing, the other countries are also good in other sports.

About complaining of sports not being played this time. Well its just seagames. Laos needed alot of help from thailand and vietnam and other countries to make this possible. So we cánt expect them to have the capacity to have all of the sports possible.

I am vietnamese myself and ofcourse i want vietnam to have a succesful seagames, but i know for the fact how we are standing in world sports. I have this bigger picture of vietnam. So i enjoy the friendship and the chit-chat that we have more

Why you talk so ignorance about going to the right way?
Your kind of saying is look acceptable for disproving.

I never regard this kind of this game as a friendship.
Whatever you are do not fair to the other, we will deeply disappear of being South East Asian people.

I know that our, all SEAs, route of culture are acceptable in cheating for saving the face, but this will decline the advantage of our competitive skill in the future. I am not mention only in term of Sport, but every things.

You want to have a friendship, but which kind of friend you want?

An unrealistic friend, An faking friend, A deceiving friend or A friend who you can look as a good example.

For Thai, we aren't good at sport since the beginning, but one thing that we are alway reminding is to develop our self by looking and improving from the other, Singapore, Korea and Japan. We have to accept that what we still need for improving, what you are better than me and how we could do better than the other, but , please, cheating is useless.

Yeah! It might make you or me proud for a while, but ,at last, you will know and disappear that whatever you done is fake. And for the whole life, you will never forget whatever sin you've done; you will cry about it forever.

Sorry, but as the Buddhists, we say if you want fish you have to fishing, if you want money you have to work by being honestly, but don't stole, especially for someone who you want to have a long relation with. Not only do you have to be sin, but also declines the relationship between us.



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-- Edited by Ty on Tuesday 15th of December 2009 04:35:15 PM

O?hope u r not refering 2 me,bro Ty.i hv nothing against u or Thai ppl.in fact,my aunty is a Thai.pls don get personal bro.fr d bottom of my heart,i apologise if i did offend u ya.cheers bro

Thx bro

sephiroth2m wrote:

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PoliceColonel_Tung wrote:

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Fin-Swimming, Shuttle-c ock, and more how come?
where r Gymnastic, Bassketball the Olympic sport

SEA Games, Is it the games for some nation ?
Are u pride if u on the top with ur local sport ?

 

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Ah yeah, Muay, Sepak Takraw, and more... how come?

This is local games event so let's our local sports to be played

Is that right that before being olympic sport it need to be played somewhere local first?

And if you don't feel pride being on top of SEA games, just don't mention it. This is games of South-East Asia, not World, remember!

 

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as least the sepak is in asian games and muay(thai) is world popular. unlike fin swimming and shuttle****..

i don't understand, why u need fin in the pool, why not  down to the reef...!

 

-- Edited by detom on Wednesday 16th of December 2009 06:02:55 AM

detom wrote:

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as least the sepak is in asian games and muay(thai) is world popular. unlike fin swimming and shuttle****..

i don't understand, why u need fin in the pool, why not  down to the reef...!

 

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 It was Thai local sport b 4 b in Asian game my friend

Let the host celebrate their nation we all thai people proud of you and support you

forever , good job laos . We don't mind if thai take second place , it just

for friendship . We all know how good our sea nation run this games , so all we talk

about this topic is just kidding he he he.

I think the host have the right to choose any kind of sports , we accepted.

why so serious? To me its good to be competitive in the Sea Games, but let face it, Sea Games is just a stepping stone towards the next level like the Asian Games and the Olympics. I feel, although winning medals great, the more important task in sea games is to groom younger talents and provide them experience in competition so that they can progress to the next level.

shev87 wrote:

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why so serious? To me its good to be competitive in the Sea Games, but let face it, Sea Games is just a stepping stone towards the next level like the Asian Games and the Olympics. I feel, although winning medals great, the more important task in sea games is to groom younger talents and provide them experience in competition so that they can progress to the next level.

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But should we play for right game? or just ignore it?

shev87 wrote:

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I think in terms of Sea Games, we have to consider the smaller nations interest as well. For some nations such as Timor, Cambodia n Laos(before this year), it is not easy for them to develop sports in their country due to financial, infrastructure or various other reasons. So the idea is to let them have a sense of participation in the Sea Games, thus the introduction of local sports,where they have a more realistic chance of getting medal.
For the bigger nations, of course they should aim higher such as the Asian Games and the Olympics.

If you ask for my opinion, i also do not like to see local sports in the game as well but thats just purely for competitive purposes. But i accept the host decision on including it. Perhaps a better way to do it, is to seperate medal tally for local sports and core sports as someone mentioned in this board before.

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But those think you said, it is unfair! We need FAIR and Reasonable Game!

 

I wish the next Sea Games will remove Local Sports like Fin-Swimming, Shuttlec-ock, Muay(not Boxing), Penchak Silat, Karatedo and Judo
very good